The American D-Day beach landings were under the command of US 1st Army, and the 1st Infantry was part of the First Army until - afaik - until the end of the war in Europe. Mr. Durning received Emmy nominations for supporting performances in the mini-series Captains and the Kings (1976), the prison drama Attica (1980) and a CBS production of Arthur Millers Death of a Salesman (1985), in which he played Charley, the sympathetic neighbor of Willy Loman (Dustin Hoffman). From Trump to Putin: How People Came to Look to Timothy Snyder for Predictions, The Curious History of Ulysses Grant's Great Grandfather, H.W.

This is four days after the start of the Battle of the Bulge and three days after the Malmedy Massacre.Oldbubblehead (talk) 06:39, 7 May 2014 (UTC)Reply[reply]. They clearly violated the Geneva Conventions and "were technically guilty of war crimes.". 6. Stars in Khaki by Wise and Wilderson provides little information. Unfortunately, Durning is very frail and his conversation is a bit wandering and imprecise. He spoke at memorial ceremonies in Washington. His daughter Michele Durning confirmed the death. The trials were deliberately held on the site of the Dachau concentration camp, to garner maximum symbolism from the event. I believe that is so obviously and universally admitted a principle that I hardly think any gentleman will deny it." It had seen relatively little frontline duty and was filled with numerous green replacements. There was a caf there, as well as three small farms. I'm guessing the latter was in response to Durning wanting to clarify things in the time leading up to his award from the French on 22 April. This may have been a mistake or perhaps not, but it would explain why an actor, in an age sensitive business, would not want to publicize a World War II war record. Durning does not appear in either the muster reports or morning reports of any of the units involved. Unless there is a source that indicates Mr. Durning has a disorder, suggesting he has one simply because he admits to nightmares is false and misleading.

One night a frequently drunk comedian failed to show up, and Mr. Durning, who had memorized the comics jokes, persuaded the manager to let him go on. 2. But, he did NOT survive the There is no reference to the Reynolds quote, so it is not really relevant to the article. There is a significant question as to who he served with upon returning to the Continent. Asteriks (talk) 18:46, 10 August 2008 (UTC)Reply[reply]. Wedinm (talk) 21:22, 29 March 2011 (UTC)Reply[reply], Regarding the lengthy Malmedy survivor? The U.S. troops suffered 81,000 casualties, which included 18,000 dead, while their German opponents were hit with 70,000 casualties, including 20,000 dead.

I'm afraid that's where your argument runs out of steam. I have seen the story about Charles Durning at Omaha beach and surviving the Malmedy massacre posted a couple of time before. I'm reluctant to cast any doubt on Mr. Durning's service, but the details are so vague and contradictory that they bear some examination. Before I make any changes to his page, I have asked for some clarification from the Wikipedia powers that be. Finally, this story about Durning present at the crossroad is running on several websites since many years. This may have been true, but Peiper also had a reputation for brutality to prisoners that his men certainly knew about. The Germans of Kampfgruppe Peiper, seventy of whom were convicted in a war crimes tribunal after the war, were surprisedexecuting prisoners was standard fare on the Eastern Front. Charles Durning, right, with Dustin Hoffman, in a scene from Tootsie in 1982. And on the morning of December 17, the second day of the German attack, he was a frustrated man. The delay upset Peiper. Preceding unsigned comment added by Deemery (talk contribs) 16:08, 26 December 2012 (UTC)Reply[reply], In 1943 you joined the army, enlisting as an Army Ranger. The worksheet shows (additionally) Foreign Service Pay of $128.43 for the period 1 Dec 45 to 24 or 26 Jan 46 $7072/month depending on how it was pro-rated. They are not survivors although they escaped the massacre. However, in the beginning of the attack, the Germans possessed the element of surprise and a sense of purpose and directionthey knew what they were there for and where they were heading. In the comedy Tootsie (1982) he was a little of each, playing Jessica Langes unsuspecting father, who falls for a television actor masquerading as a woman. Does anyone think that we should request the page to be locked? If such a trivial thing deserves mention (which IMO it doesn't), then you would need to provide a reference that someone else is the 2nd most decorated soldier of WWII. Then the SS men began to walk among the injured and the dead, pistols out. I must acknowledge that several websites clearly state that durning was at the Baugnez crossroad when the massacre occured. a book writen by an historian, for instance) is never goven by these websites. But then another German unit came by and those Americans who could speak German heard a lieutenant in this unit give the order: Machte alle Kaput! Kill the Americans. Eleven Americans fled to the caf nearby, but the Germans set it on fire and then gunned down the men as they ran out. Earlier in the discussion somebody (rightfully) pointed out General Reynold's sentence "Few of these accounts are based on fact, and most are embellished and inaccurate". 03 Apr 2023 01:55:49 German infantrywearing winter camouflage clothing that most of the Americans did not possessattacked out of the ethereal mist, firing burp guns from the hip. Monkeyzpop (talk) 01:53, 16 October 2011 (UTC)Reply[reply], we all have watched the cuban crime rags to ritches film with al pacino , i am personnely convinced that charles durning done a voice over for an emigration officer at the early stages of the film watch the start and the questions about the tattoo ,,,,if this is not charles durning voice then im an aardvaark. Traffic copper to Sir Arthur "Bomber" Harris, 1943: "Don't drive so fast sir, you might kill somebody". He is not credited for being in Star Wars at IMDB. To this day it is uncertain if the Germans would have shot the Americans had they not tried to runmany German soldiers present later claimed they were merely killing escaping prisoners. According to testimony at the war crimes trial, Major Poetschke was heard by a U.S. soldier who understood German telling a Sergeant Beutner: You know what to do with the prisoners.. He was in the first wave of troops to land on Omaha Beach on D-Day and his units lone survivor of a machine-gun ambush. Some of them had placed their hands on their helmets in a casual token of surrender to the Waffen-SS troops of Kampfgruppe Peiperthe mechanized task force commanded by the brilliant young German Colonel Jochen Peiperas it passed by, but beyond that they seemed remarkably unconcerned. He cried as he related these stories. http://news.yahoo.com/durning-king-character-actors-dies-nyc-075353360.html, Sca (talk) 14:53, 25 December 2012 (UTC)Reply[reply], While the article notes there appears to be some confusion at Durning's war record (which unit he was with at any particular moment etc), I think the Third Army [art needs to be clarified. (2000).

So when was he a member of Third Army, during or after the war?EnigmaMcmxc (talk) 13:23, 26 December 2012 (UTC)Reply[reply], It seems to me we should be able to track down (and then link to) Durning's Silver Star citation, which would provide date, circumstances and probably unit of assignment at the time. I am proposing the following as a new section on the Charles Durning page: "Controversy Surrounding Military Service - Charles Durning, who overcame poverty, battlefield trauma and nagging self-doubt to become an acclaimed character actor, whether on stage as Big Daddy in Cat on a Hot Tin Roof or in film as the lonely widower smitten with a cross-dressing Dustin Hoffman in Tootsie, died on Monday at his home in Manhattan. The men, covered with blood, were hysterical. One possible explanation for his not being mentioned on this, or vocal generally on World War II, is that I found him listed in Halliwell's Filmgoers Companion as born in 1933. These tanks were the spearhead of Kampfgruffe Peiper, led by Lieutenant Werner Sternebeck, and their 88-mm guns and machine guns easily tore up the U.S. column. The Battle of the Bulge was the largest battle ever fought in the history of the U.S. infantry and one of the bloodiest battles of World War II, which was the most costly war in human history. [4] Given the scores of thousands of trained infantry replacements prepositioned in Britain in anticipation of D-Day casualties (over 88,000 replacements of all types had been 'stockpiled' in the UK by 7 Jun 44), it defies belief that the Rangers would accept a last minute replacement who was not even infantry qualified. We owe him a debt of gratitude as we do the many other World War II veterans who served alongside him. Durning stated he took part in the D-Day landings, and the article notes he was with 1st Infantry.

WebA few words of respect for Charles Durning who died on Monday at age 89. As a subscriber, you have 10 gift articles to give each month. This area covered the rugged and desolate Ardennes Forest and was mountainous and remote. And there's the weakness in Wiki; the burden of proof should be on those making assertions of fact; instead, Wiki gives credence to unsubstantiated, possibly self-serving claims made by individuals, that are only bolstered by second and third hand retellings of that same man's stories. Even though he was coming at me, I couldnt shoot.. In some instances, U.S. outfits were completely surrounded by the attacking Germans while, a few miles (kilometers) away, the GIs wiped out entire German companies. Depot/ Repl. I made the following changes: When you have finished reviewing my changes, you may follow the instructions on the template below to fix any issues with the URLs. With regards to the re-assignment of soldiers - while it is common knowledge that the replacement system funneled troops from unit to unit after being wounded, they were still moved to units with respect to their training. However, immediately after the massacre occurred and well before the bodies were recovered, the news quickly spread through the GIs fighting for their lives in the Ardennes. It was the start of a long association with Papp, who cast him, often as a clown, in 35 plays, many by Shakespeare. Then came World War II, and he enlisted in the Army. Shortly after it passed this crossroads, the column began to receive fire from two German tanks that were 1,000 yards (0.9 km) down the road. In any case, recovered soldiers were returned to units of their original branch. Further thoughts on this would be helpful. However, at around 4 oclock that afternoon, soldiers from the SS 3rd Pioneer company were detailed to permanently guard the prisoners. Peiper, who was murdered in France in 1976 by a shadow group of anti-Nazi terrorists who called themselves the Avengers, always claimed that he did not give express orders to kill the prisoners at Malmedy, and he probably did not. Autopsies conducted on the frozen corpses showed that forty-one men had been shot in the head at close range and another ten had had their heads bashed in with rifle butts. By the wars end he had been awarded a Silver Star for valor and three Purple Hearts, having suffered gunshot and shrapnel wounds as well. Is Archaeology Due for a Sexual Revolution? That at least would acknowledge the elephant in the room. [Durning] was among the first soldiers to land on the Normandy beaches during the D-Day invasion of June 6, 1944, wrote The Washington Post. Hell, I dont have an image. He later told The Pittsburgh Post-Gazette that he was driven by fear the fear of not being recognized by your peers.. 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